From a conversation with Krishnamurti, on the art of listening:
David Bohm, after many conversations with Krishnamurti, developed the concept of Dialogue in which seeing and suspending were intimately related. Krishnamurti here points to suspending biases and conditioning that allow us to both see to the root of things and listen deeply to one another.
I’m curious about how people might do this is daily life. It’s one thing to enter a deeply relfective state in a retreat and practice seeing and listening, but in daily life, when these practices are critical, how do we quickly enter that state where real seeing is possible? What do you do to set aside your biases, prejudices, assumptions and conclusions? How do you suspend in the moment?
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Rob Paterson is leading a charge for a new movement, taking Martin Luther for his inspiration:
Once again a new technology for communication has arrived to aid this group to spread the word. Once again, the voice of people is being heard around the world and those that control the media, like those that controlled the pulpits and the church lists of approved texts, tremble.”
Nailing the theses to the door, I’d say. Even though the 95 Theses meme was used by Cluetrain, you can’t have too much 21st century protestantism. Stay tuned…
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The fact that externalizing a thing makes it disappear is usually a bad thing. Describing rather than experiencing…
What happens is, your answers change each time through. I think this is because your headache changes. Or maybe it�s the other way around: your headache changes because your answers change. In any case there comes a point at which there�s nothing left to change because at that point the headache is gone, you�ve described it out of existence.
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Here is a message that came by way of Phil Lane, the director of Four Worlds International. William Commanda is an Elder from Maniwaki, Quebec who holds a number of wampum belts which he uses for teaching. He sent this message to a conference recently held in Vancouver:
As you may know, I have been keeper of three sacred Wampum Belts for over thirty years; they are not mine, I carry them for the people. The Seven Fires Prophecy Belt is speaking loudly now. It comes from the fourteen hundreds, and its prophecy foretold the coming of the light skinned race and the great and devastating changes that were to come into our lives. We are now living at the time of the seventh fire, where the crucial choice of respect for Mother Earth and all humanity is being presented with great urgency. But it seems like we are scarcely heeding the messages of Mother Earth, and her process of cleansing is taking on greater strength. In the last century, we have managed to inflict ninety percent of the damage to Mother Earth, altering climate and weather patterns, and as she grows sick, so do all her children. We all experience this in physical and emotional turmoil, as new diseases invade our environment and our lives and we look in vain for peace.
It is desperately important that we find ways to heal ourselves and learn again to walk in balance with the beat of Mother Earth. It is only then that we will be able to light the Eighth Fire of Peace. This Gathering offers opportunities to find that path to healing and hope. I hope you will all benefit richly from this experience.
The Three Figure Wampum Belt that I also carry dates back to 1700. This Belt signifies the sacred agreement my ancestors made with the newcomers, the French and the English, to share the grand natural resources of the continent of North America, Turtle Island, together with our values and culture, in three equal shares. Our people stand at the centre of this agreement. Our people were a generous people, and they could not have imagined the extent of the invasion of our lands that would follow. We never did receive our fair share of the resources of the land, and today, the indigenous peoples are the poorest and most powerless. And because our values were not reflected in the development of this country, Mother Earth is suffering and we are no longer peoples living in harmony and balance.
It is of vital importance that we learn to heal ourselves and reclaim our strength and our rightful place. As we learn to forgive and love again, we will grow in strength and lead the path to peace and healing for all humanity.
William is an amazing teacher. When I lived in Ottawa, I often heard him teach using the belts.
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Good old whiskey river:
— Ruth Smeltzer