{"id":19686,"date":"2025-12-31T13:29:58","date_gmt":"2025-12-31T21:29:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.chriscorrigan.com\/parkinglot\/?p=19686"},"modified":"2025-12-31T13:29:59","modified_gmt":"2025-12-31T21:29:59","slug":"some-more-thoughts-on-religion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.chriscorrigan.com\/parkinglot\/some-more-thoughts-on-religion\/","title":{"rendered":"Some more thoughts on religion"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>The other day <a href=\"https:\/\/www.chriscorrigan.com\/parkinglot\/its-surprisingly-tricky-to-define-religion-and-thats-good-thing\/\">I wrote a post looking at religion as an emergent container of meaning making <\/a>that is both difficult to define and important in civic life. I&#8217;m writing this as a person who is religious to the extent that I practice within and belong to a 100 year old mainline Christian tradition with a mixed history in civic affairs, the <a href=\"https:\/\/united-church.ca\">United Church of Canada<\/a>. It was involved in the establishment of both residential schools and public health care. It has championed and supported global solidarity and peace work and no doubt has left people feeling hurt by actions of its leadership. It was the first church in Canada to ordain gay and lesbian ministers and an early adopter of same-sex marriage. In many ways my life has been shaped by this tradition, even the two decades or when I wasn&#8217;t an active practitioner in a congregation. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As I have worked with many churches and faith communities of all kinds, I am acutely aware of the influence that religion can have on civic life. I am acutely aware that that is often &#8220;not a good thing&#8221; especially in this day and age.  In the post I wrote the other day I was trying to explore how  religion functions as an emergent product of a set of constraints. My basic idea is that religion itself is difficult to define and therefore difficult to either adopt or throw out in terms of its influence on civic affairs. Those of us that belong to religions have very different conversations about the role of religion in civic life than those who do not.  Very few of my friends are religious, but with those that are, critical conversations about the role of religion in society are very different with them than with those who simply reject religion at all or say it should be a private matter.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Today I awoke to a beautiful Christmas present (yes this is the liturgical season of Christmas). My friend AKMA, an Anglican priest, Biblical scholar, and critical thinker,  <a href=\"https:\/\/akma.disseminary.org\/2025\/12\/defining-religion-or-not\/\">read and reflected on my post and offered some beautiful responses<\/a> offered with grounded and gentle assertions from the perspective of one who inhabits a religion. He shared some sources which inform his thinking (knowing that I will chase these down for further reading!). Most importantly, he shared from a place of deep lived truth, with his characteristic humility and respect: <\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>&#8221;\u00a0I should own up that I take my faith and the sorts of congruent Christian discourse as\u00a0<em>true<\/em>\u00a0and\u00a0<em>real<\/em>\u00a0in a more than merely notional way. That applies even in a way that excludes other \u2018religious\u2019 claims. That\u2019s just part of what I take\u00a0<em>believing<\/em>\u00a0to mean, and I\u2019m keenly aware of the risks and presumption baked into that. At the same time, I know and recognise that other profound, admirable, illuminating people do\u00a0<em>not<\/em>hold to what I believe, and some believe things that my faith\u00a0<em>contradicts<\/em>. Since I have no specific reason to think I\u2019m cleverer or more pious or more receptive to divine revelation than these among my neighbours, I must hold to my faith with a humility that obliges me to treat people\u2019s divergent faiths with the respect that I\u2019d wish them to show mine. I have more to learn than one lifetime&#8230;so I can\u2019t by any means rule out the possibility that my Muslim neighbour has arrived at the true, real way of faith and I am wrong about many particulars.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>All of which is to say that where Christian nationalists take their faith as a warrant to oppress others because they can\u2019t imagine that they\u2019re wrong, I take my faith as an obligation to honour others\u2019 faith up to the point where our claims conflict, and there to handle that conflict as gently and respectfully as circumstances permit.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>His whole post is worth multiple reads, because what I think he is saying in response to what I am writing is that he isn&#8217;t necessarily interested in my framing and exploration of religion-as-container, but instead in sharing the way in which his participation in his religion guides his participation in civic life. And he does so in such a nuanced and expansive manner that it validates the point I was trying to clumsily make in my original post. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Viz:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>The tricky task set before us entails finding a\u00a0<em>modus vivendi<\/em>\u00a0by which we who hold to particular exclusive claims about human flourishing can honour and respect people who take a different view, but who still want to live in a civic community with us, and how we can work together to minimise the damage done by fascist-nihilists who will contentedly imprison, torture, kill anybody who gets in the way of their implementing their will.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>This is what I mean by religion as a powerful dialogic container. It is a bounded space of shared identity and meaning-making. Inside it, you see these conversations with contemporaries and with ancestors who have carried a deep questions about how we live together. AKMA&#8217;s distillation of such is an example for me about the role that religion plays in both personal and civic life.  It feels brave to say it aloud. Thanks AKMA.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The other day I wrote a post looking at religion as an emergent container of meaning making that is both difficult to define and important in civic life. I&#8217;m writing this as a person who is religious to the extent that I practice within and belong to a 100 year old mainline Christian tradition with a mixed history in civic affairs, the United Church of Canada. It was involved in the establishment of both residential schools and public health care. 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