{"id":1421,"date":"2008-07-14T17:32:15","date_gmt":"2008-07-15T01:32:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/chriscorrigan.com\/parkinglot\/?p=1421"},"modified":"2008-07-14T17:32:15","modified_gmt":"2008-07-15T01:32:15","slug":"either-we-talk-or-or","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.chriscorrigan.com\/parkinglot\/either-we-talk-or-or\/","title":{"rendered":"Either we talk or, or&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I have never understood the idea that you can&#8217;t talk to terrorists. \u00a0 I don&#8217;t mean in the moment of vioence being committed. \u00a0 I mean the idea that negotiations with the Taliban in Afghanistan for example, are a non-starter for Canada.<\/p>\n<p>We have committed 6 years to the &#8220;war on terror&#8221; and the exit strategy seems to be &#8220;kill all the bad guys before going home.&#8221; \u00a0 This is an impossible condition for victory. \u00a0 At some point people have to sit down and talk about how they are going to leave each other alone, no?<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2008\/07\/14\/opinion\/14cohen.html?hp\">This interesting article in the NY Times is about Jonas Gahr Store<\/a>, the Norwegian who brokered the Oslo Peace Accord in 1993. \u00a0 In it he talks about the need to talk to people as an alternative to say, unilateral declarations of war on hundreds of previously unconnected networks:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Norway&#8217;s message to the United States is blunt: the next administration, whether headed by Barack Obama or John McCain, should pronounce the war on terror over. Because it has tended to isolate the United States, polarize the world, inflate the enemy, conflate diverse movements and limit scope for dialogue, its time has passed.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe way this has been framed, as an indefinite war that will last for decades, has impoverished our ability to understand the point of departure of the conflict and how we should deal with it,\u201d\u009d Store said. \u201cEngaging is not weakness, and by not talking the West has tended to give the upper hand to extremists on the other side.\u201d\u009d<\/p>\n<p>He continued: \u201cModerates lose ground if they cannot show tangible results. You don&#8217;t engage at any price, but the price can come down and we can achieve more.\u201d\u009d<\/p>\n<p>Norway has kept channels open to Hamas and to Syria. It has spoken with the Hamas leadership. It is convinced the West missed an opportunity by not talking in March 2007 to the elected Palestinian national unity government composed of Fatah and Hamas members. It argues that Taliban elements can be drawn out of terror into politics through talks.<\/p>\n<p>In all of this, Norway has used the greater diplomatic latitude it enjoys as a non-member of the European Union. The E.U., like the United States, lists Hamas as a terrorist organization.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe have enormous reason to be upset with Hamas because it spent every day after Oslo trying to destroy Oslo,\u201d\u009d Store said. \u201cBut there is a strong realist tradition in Hamas oriented toward a political landscape. In general, it should be in our interest to get organizations out of military activity and into politics. The political working method has not been sufficiently tested.\u201d\u009d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Interesting.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have never understood the idea that you can&#8217;t talk to terrorists. \u00a0 I don&#8217;t mean in the moment of vioence being committed. \u00a0 I mean the idea that negotiations with the Taliban in Afghanistan for example, are a non-starter for Canada. We have committed 6 years to the &#8220;war on terror&#8221; and the exit strategy seems to be &#8220;kill all the bad guys before going home.&#8221; \u00a0 This is an impossible condition for victory. \u00a0 At some point people have to sit down and talk about how they are going to leave each other alone, no? This interesting article &#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"_wpas_customize_per_network":false},"categories":[19,34],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1421","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-conversation","category-flow"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/piBp1-mV","jetpack-related-posts":[],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.chriscorrigan.com\/parkinglot\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1421","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.chriscorrigan.com\/parkinglot\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.chriscorrigan.com\/parkinglot\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.chriscorrigan.com\/parkinglot\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.chriscorrigan.com\/parkinglot\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1421"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.chriscorrigan.com\/parkinglot\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1421\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.chriscorrigan.com\/parkinglot\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1421"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.chriscorrigan.com\/parkinglot\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1421"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.chriscorrigan.com\/parkinglot\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1421"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}